# Using Multiple Nodes with Tenancy **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [July 19, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.weaviate.io/t/using-multiple-nodes-with-tenancy/3105 "2024-07-19T18:13:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dhanshew72](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.weaviate.io/dhanshew72/32/1809_2.png) [@dhanshew72](https://forum.weaviate.io/u/dhanshew72)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.weaviate.io/t/using-multiple-nodes-with-tenancy/3105/1 "2024-07-19T18:13:43Z")
### Description How do I know my setup is using multiple nodes with tenancy or how would I verify this state? I’ve been running a 2 node cluster playing around with the setup by loading data. However, I’m not what I would think would be the right things to ensure that this setup is working and wanted some guidance. When I hit the endpoint /v1/nodes/\ ```auto {"nodes":[{"batchStats":{"queueLength":0,"ratePerSecond":3},"gitHash":"1ea5766","name":"node0","shards":null,"status":"HEALTHY","version":"1.25.7"},{"batchStats":{"queueLength":0,"ratePerSecond":0},"gitHash":"1ea5766","name":"node1","shards":null,"status":"HEALTHY","version":"1.25.7"}]} ``` I have 2 tenants loaded up at the moment so I’d expected to see at least a value for shards for node0. The only logs I see that confirms the nodes are connected is debug logs: ```auto "msg":" memberlist: Initiating push/pull sync with: node0 ``` These logs are just repeating itself. However, I’m not clear if these nodes are being used to store tenants individually or if I need to change my setup in some way to search across multiple ones. I also am not near to filling up a single node. The only thing I’ve seen is when I was developing this I would get error messages if my node1 wasn’t reachable. Any advice on this? I just want to prove that multiple nodes will be used loading data for multiple tenants. ### Server Setup Information - Weaviate Server Version: 1.25.7 - Deployment Method: Docker on AWS ECS - Multi Node? Number of Running Nodes: 2 - Client Language and Version: 4.6.5 - Multitenancy?: Yes. ---
**Author:** ![DudaNogueira](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.weaviate.io/dudanogueira/32/7846_2.png) [@DudaNogueira](https://forum.weaviate.io/u/DudaNogueira)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.weaviate.io/t/using-multiple-nodes-with-tenancy/3105/2 "2024-07-26T14:58:25Z")
hi @dhanshew72 !! Sorry for the delay here. Missed this one ☹ Were you able to figure this out? Weaviate should distribute the tenants across different available nodes. Here is a test I did using latest 1.26.1 version with 3 nodes: ```python from weaviate import classes as wvc client.collections.delete("MyMTCollection") collection = client.collections.create( "MyMTCollection", multi_tenancy_config=wvc.config.Configure.multi_tenancy(enabled=True, auto_tenant_activation=True, auto_tenant_creation=True), vectorizer_config=wvc.config.Configure.Vectorizer.none() ) ``` now let’s check we have 0 shards yet: ```python for node in client.cluster.nodes(output="verbose"): print(node.name, len(node.shards)) ``` outputs: > weaviate-0 0 > weaviate-1 0 > weaviate-2 0 Now let’s add 100 tenants with some sample data ```python for i in range(100): tenant_data = f"T{i}" collection.with_tenant(tenant_data).data.insert({"text": tenant_data}) ``` This is how it is distributed (it varies for every run) after adding the tenants and content: > weaviate-0 40 > weaviate-1 28 > weaviate-2 32 Let me know if that helps. THanks! ---
**Author:** ![dhanshew72](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.weaviate.io/dhanshew72/32/1809_2.png) [@dhanshew72](https://forum.weaviate.io/u/dhanshew72)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.weaviate.io/t/using-multiple-nodes-with-tenancy/3105/3 "2024-07-26T16:30:11Z")
Apologies, I should have reported back. I got this working now. ---
**Author:** ![jinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c6cbf5/32.png) [@jinx](https://forum.weaviate.io/u/jinx)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.weaviate.io/t/using-multiple-nodes-with-tenancy/3105/4 "2025-02-25T17:14:12Z")
Will the tenants be distributed such that each node has roughly the same amount of data? ---
**Author:** ![dhanshew72](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.weaviate.io/dhanshew72/32/1809_2.png) [@dhanshew72](https://forum.weaviate.io/u/dhanshew72)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.weaviate.io/t/using-multiple-nodes-with-tenancy/3105/5 "2025-02-25T17:23:10Z")
No, they’re based on the tenant size and stay on the same node. Each tenant is considered a shard at least on 1.24 ---
**Author:** ![DudaNogueira](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.weaviate.io/dudanogueira/32/7846_2.png) [@DudaNogueira](https://forum.weaviate.io/u/DudaNogueira)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.weaviate.io/t/using-multiple-nodes-with-tenancy/3105/6 "2025-02-25T18:39:35Z")
that is also true for 1.29 ---
**Author:** ![jinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c6cbf5/32.png) [@jinx](https://forum.weaviate.io/u/jinx)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 2:50am UTC](https://forum.weaviate.io/t/using-multiple-nodes-with-tenancy/3105/7 "2025-02-26T02:50:55Z")
I am sorry, let me rephrase. I am running a weaviate cluster on kubernetes. I have multiple weaviate pods running across multiple kubernetes nodes. Let’s assume I have 4 pods running across 4 nodes. And each pod was allocated 8 GB of memory. So if one pod can hold n vectors, I know that my weaviate cluster can support roughly 4\*n vectors. Correct? Now instead of specifying sharding config for the collection, if I make the collection multi-tenant, can I assume that my cluster will still be able to support 4\*n vectors? Does Weaviate distribute tenants evenly across all pods, or do I need to manage this manually? ---
**Author:** ![DudaNogueira](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.weaviate.io/dudanogueira/32/7846_2.png) [@DudaNogueira](https://forum.weaviate.io/u/DudaNogueira)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://forum.weaviate.io/t/using-multiple-nodes-with-tenancy/3105/8 "2025-02-27T17:33:40Z")
hi @jinx ! That’s correct. This is considering you have replication factor of 4 (so each object will be replicated 4 times across the cluster). Now each collection/tenant will have shards spreaded on all 4 nodes. If you have 4 nodes, and you have a replication factor of 3, Weaviate will allocate shards on the node that is use the least resources. We do not have the feature of shard movement. This is planned in experimental mode for Weaviate 1.30. Let me know if that helps! Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![jinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c6cbf5/32.png) [@jinx](https://forum.weaviate.io/u/jinx)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://forum.weaviate.io/t/using-multiple-nodes-with-tenancy/3105/9 "2025-03-03T03:57:03Z")
Okay, understood. Thank you!